turbo vr6

does any one have a turbo vr6? ive seen a few kits like the eip kit for the 24v vr6 it looks nuts

ha, the vr6 needs a turbo. To slow otherwise.

May be a useless addon for most. Guy's will run it at under 9 psi.
Why bother?

ive seen some quick VR6s at the track running turbo kits, but i dont know who made the kit

It's not hard to build a turbo kit really, for
any car. Just need the time and cash to do it.

But yea VR6 needs it to be worthy

Vr6 VWs shouldnt be down talked they have great HP n speed ..the car is great but then agian 1.8T is just as well cuz u can swtich out the turbos wit a new bolt on.that the only reason i got it hahaha...

the biggest concern wouldny be fitment, but it would be an issue of how much boost the stock NA internals will handle...

Yeah well im not a big TURBO Expert but all i know is if u put a T3 kit wit a front mount intercooler that car would DESTROY/EAT the competition at least most of them.i really like this site this is the 1st site i haved got punked for being a 16 year old.

but the problem is that if you run too much boost without changing the internals, it will tear up the motor very quickly.

The new motors that are built today are very strong. Most internals
that are done are to add to the horsepower, not safety it up.
Eventually though, if you put enough coal to it, you'll bend a rod,
push it through the block or destroy your pistons. In a VR6,
a T3/T4 hybrid...running 10psi is plenty (intercooled) as a daily driver.
Anything more is useless on the street.

I work for a company that deals strictly in turbo's and builds,
designs and installs custom turbo kits. I've seen a lot of things
happen with turbo. Usually, if not always, the transmission will
go before you destroy anything in the block.

-Jeff

but most internals are Really pushing at it 10psi of boost...

yes the vw vr6 engine has a turbo kit.

the vr6 can take almost any car off of the line because of such a high amount of torque at such low rpm's. 178 ft-lbs at 4200rpms and 174 hp at 4800.

the vr6 internals are hella strong, the rods can handle 450-550 hp EASILY before breaking or bending. and who is gonna have over 450hp for a daily driver jetta?

FACE IT NO ONE WITH A VR6, even if its intercooled can push 10 lbs of boost on a stock headgasket, you'd blow it. to run more than 6psi safely, you're gonna need to lower the compression to 8.5:1 or 9:1 because stock (10:1) is just way too high... you can put lower compression pistons in, or a more simple solution would be to put in a thicker headgasket www.c2motorsports.com go there to get it, 225 bucks

the turbo kit for the vr6 is considerabley cheap, 2700 from kineticmotorsport.com

a non intercooled kit can put down 250 HP TO THE WHEELS and will make the car run an EASY low 14 second quarter mile and with minor mods, it'll be into the 13's.

any questions, comments, or haters email me at westsoccer18 @ hotmail.com i'd like to hear from you
i know a lot about the vr6 engine i've already begun the process of rebuilding and boosting my own so let me know if you have a question about it...
cheers,
casey

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and btw, yes the VR6 is a neat little car, especially with a tuned turbo setup but is not what you would like to call "can take any car off the line" or basically beat any car on the road. Do a little more research.

The intent is good but very misguided.

listen up jsd

you're the one who has to get his facts straight, a turbo vr6 w/ an intercooler that runs 9psi can hit 300whp, its been done... multiple times. turbo vr's can stand up to an sti - i've actually seen it done at Wisconsin international raceway

and im not saying it'll take any car off the line... im saying it'll take many if not all cars in the same class as it from whatever year it was made. with full torque on a stock engine peaking at 4200 rpms... why wouldnt it have a quicker start? most v6 engines have peak torque and hp up in the 6000's... i've done my research and am attending the volkswagen academy... thanks

any ?'s just reply it

Okay, when did I say otherwise? I'm still trying to understand why you keep "complaining" like a child in your posts. No one is saying it's a bad car, nor that it couldn't hang up there with other cars (I merely stated that it's not the top car/setup out there). We welcome productive responses but if you continue with your attempt to impress and continue to be rude, you won't be posting for very much longer.

Personally, I know about V6's, I do contract work for a company that builds turbo kits for V6's, I know the numbers. Thanks. This is the last time I will ask. Lose the attitude or find another forum. Got it? Good.

If you'd like to talk about this more, I'm open to it. (Without the attitude)


-Jeff

cant we all just get along?

lol no worries Joelzy, it's typical guy/car talk hahahahahaha old thread anyways :-)

-Jeff

you say you know V6's jsd. well you obviously dont know VR's very well. the VR6 is a unique engine. its not a true V6, the pistons are staggered and basically inline. one cyl head 2 cams. bet you didnt know that. this engine setup no one else uses, the crank is dropforged. and the pistons and rods were built factory to handle a good amount of boost. VW Germany knew these cars were going to be tuned out. that car can handle a lot so dont say you know this car. im a VW tech, i went to school for VW's in chicago. dont downtalk this car, i guarentee that with some mods itl smoke a ton of things. my buddy spent 1750 and he runs 13.2 and toys with a ton of turboed cars while hes n/a. do your research or learn VW before you say you know V6's or a VR6. VW is a completely different world over any other make/modle.

He may not know, but I do. It's an old thread, don't stir up dust on something a long time ago. They are both right, and there's different types of VR's, I know my cars and research

thats all i ask. especially coming from an all VW site. i hate when people dont know about a car but relate it to things that arent even close to being the same. i saw this just searching the net for some turbo parts for my gti. im looken to get an EIP stage 2, i just finished rebuilding the head for a racing application and i built my bottem end also. im hoping to put 400 from the turbo and another 100-150 from a small shot of direct port nitrus.

Ok, just so you know this is all my opinion!! Nitrous is for cowards, and it's fake HP. Real racers don't need it, I don't use it, none of my family uses it, and no one I race with uses it. We all agree that if you need it, then you haven't built your motor properly. Anyways, with the turbo, you may get 400 HP after you put the turbo on it. I had built an awesome Mustang awhile back..steel forged crank and all that. I pout a 100 shot of wet NOS through the block twice, and it cracked it, blew the block. 150 is insane, I'd would def, def do your research!! Again, this is all my opinion.

then you obviously dont know performance. i went to ranken for college its the #1 automotive school in north america. we have an advanced engines class taught by old nascar techs, avid performance techs and so on. NOS is the same thing as a turbo in reality. if you blew your block you didnt set it up right or you didnt build you engine right. theres 2 ways to build an engine, 1 for boost and a small shot of NOS. or you can build everything forged and make a solid engine with a bored and stroked engine and put a high shot of Nitrus. if you want to go below 10 you need it. its extremely safe if you know how to do it. everyone i went to school with and all my teachers said if you want your car to be quick after you boost it and upgrade the parts of your car to handle the HP and boost, you need a bottle. the 4 major causes of nitrus blowing things is 1) you have too big of a shot for the size of the engine 2) you didnt build your engine strong enough 3)you didnt set it up right and the jets are too big or too small 4) the activation mechanism goes off by human error, such as a horn activated switch. trust me on this, nitrus is not cheating or bad. goto vwvortex.com and ask all the VW techs and racers and tuners over there and say nitrus is cheap ricer way to get HP. in essence its the same a boosting the car. your compressing air to put into your cylinder. a turbo does it by forcing it by turbine/compressor into the intake mani. a NOS does the same by supercooling the air to contract the airparticles so much that you can fit alot more air into you intake mani that its the same as when you force it in. now im not trying to pick a fight, but this is a fact. its got a bad reputation because alot of people think its a ricers cheater for HP, or that its dangerous. anotherthing, go watch pinks on speedvision. i have never seen a car that they had racing on there without a NOS, thats gotta tell u somethen off the bat. so thats all i needed to say tho.

I've been racing for 24 years and there is no such thing as "cheating " horsepower. NOS is a tool of the well informed, not cheating. You still have to know how to set up a proper system in order for it to work, just like any turbo, supercharger, carb, injector, cam or ANYTHING else you can name as far as performance parts go!! Some oldtimers still think turbos and blowers are cheating 'cause its not all motor. Oh well, I'll see you FROM the winners circle. Fast is Good!!

The main point that I was making, I know what Nitrous does, and how it works.  I was simply saying that it's a  cheap, easy way to make HP.  Me being from Detroit, we build all motor vehicles, whether we put a blower and forced induction on it, whatever.  Unless there's a rice burner, you race for money, or you live on the track...we don't use Nitrous.  I know guys back in Detroit who will build all motor vehicles just to prove a point to the guys who have Nitrous in a street car, which is illegal.  The bottom line....Nitrous is HP in a bottle, it's cheap and easy...enough said.

i live my life a qurter mile at a time

LMFAO!!!  OMG, no you didn't....that's some funny shizzle..